Jan 23, 2023
Kimberly Hobbs
Welcome to Empowering Lives with Purpose. And I'm your host,
Kimberly Hobbs. I'm the founder of Women World Leaders. And we are
so happy that you tuned in today. Today I'd love to welcome our
guest, Jane Goldie Winn from Delray Beach, Florida welcome,
Jane.
Jane "Goldie" Winn
Thank you, Kimberly, thank you for having me on your podcast today
and welcome to all the listeners.
Kimberly Hobbs
Yes, amen. And Goldie's is going to speak today about hope and
encouragement, we all need a little bit of hope and encouragement,
right? And she shares her story today. Ladies, our desire to have
you here is to strengthen and encourage each other in the name of
Jesus to walk together to empower one another, to find your
beautiful purpose in Jesus and serving Him. God is working in you
ladies. He's giving you the desire and the power to do what pleases
Him. That's actually a scripture verse in Philippians 213 He gives
us that desire to Run after Him and serve Him with all our heart.
And it's our hopes that as you listen to these podcasts, that you
will be inspired by something that you hear that will allow you to
move in that direction, to run after God to seek Him with all your
heart and to serve Him because He is amazing. He is the God of
exceedingly abundantly beyond what we could ever ask for. So as we
talk with Goldie today, and she shares her incredible story about
abortion, she wants to deliver that message of there is hope beyond
shame and guilt and the things that we sometimes carry because of
our past. So I want to tell you a little bit about Miss Goldie
when. Today she is a published author. She is a client advocate in
a pregnancy resource clinic in South Florida, where she counsels
abortion determined clients in the throes of decision making and
hoping that she can pour some love and light into their situation.
She speaks at churches and congregations and shares her testimony
of transformation from a hippie to a princess. When the devastation
of a second trimester abortion drove this young Jewish hippie into
darkness and despair. She shares about the hope and encouragement
of how she broke free from the stronghold of her past. And that's
exactly what we love doing here on empowering lives with purpose
because we all have pasts. And how did you overcome that? How did
Jesus find you where you were? And Goldie's incredible life story
is titled rainbow in the night. And she has a 20 year redemption
journey which is now in the process of being made into a movie. She
has a book that's written on it. She's Goldie is also a Messianic
Jew. She has been married to her soulmate Dave since 1974. And
together they reside in South Florida. So Goldie as we begin right
now, I would love for you to share a little bit about that past and
abortion story and what you had gone through as a young, hippie
girl, just finding her way, right and life.
Jane "Goldie" Winn
Yes, well, if you watched Forrest Gump, I would have been a little
bit like Jenny, what can I tell you? But anyway, just to give some
backstory, I grew up in a small Midwestern town in Independence,
Iowa, about 5000 people. And my father was a psychiatrist, a very
renowned psychiatrists. He came he was asked to be the
superintendent in 1958. And when he arrived, there were 1100
patients. And it was a very formidable structure and a very
interesting childhood to grow up in this hospital setting. There
were 500 employees. And I remember when we first drove up to the
hospital, my father's first words were, what did I get myself into?
I have to get these bars off the windows. This is terrible. And so
my father ended up doing amazing things for that hospital and in
the field of psychiatry, but behind closed doors, he was very
different. And unfortunately, he was physically and emotionally
abusive mostly to my older sister and somewhat to me, and it was
very hard because, you know, we lived right in the administration
building, and we would have to go down this winding beautiful
winding staircase into the lobby, and every time we would go to the
lobby, the entire staff would stand up and respect from my father.
Wow, a patriot Americans so well respected. So it was very
confusing for me growing up in two worlds feeling like I had to,
you know, keep everything literally behind closed doors and try to
bridge those worlds together. So unfortunately, when I went away to
college, I'd never really dated anyone because, again, living in
Independence, I will, there are no Jewish people. And my father
didn't want me to marry outside the faith. So it kept me away from
being able to date anyone. But when I arrived on campus, Drake
University in Des Moines, Iowa in 1967, I was a music major, and it
was when the hippie thing was just getting off the ground. And when
I was approached about it, you know, free love sex, drugs, rock and
roll, I figured I had nothing to lose, because I really didn't have
any identity. And I wanted to be accepted and liked by so many
people. So I did get involved in it, unfortunately, and fast
forwarding the story did take 20 years to complete my book, because
I had to work through a lot of issues to get to the other side,
before I could write about it from a place of freedom and hope. But
I got embroiled in that lifestyle. And one thing led to the other
and I found myself pregnant. And it was in 1970, before Roe vs.
Wade, although abortion was legal in some states, and one such
state was California and I was going to school in Michigan at the
time, I had transferred to work in major music therapy. And I just
I was living in a hippie commune. And I just thought, There's no
way I could have this baby, my father would, I can't even imagine
what he would do. Like he disowned my sister for marrying a
Catholic. So you can only imagine him he ended up accepting her
back after two and a half years. But I didn't want that kind of
rejection. So I just had to have an abortion. And unfortunately, I
went into denial. And I waited a little too long. They told me it
was a blob of tissue. And I believed it because there was no
ultrasound or anything like that. So I ended up having to go to the
hospital in San Diego was which was where I went. And, and
actually, I remember, at the time, you know, I just didn't know
what to expect. But because I was so far along, I was well into my
second trimester and had no idea because I didn't have any
symptoms, I was 70 pounds heavier, mostly because I was doing
drugs. But I guess the pregnancy contributed as well. But I didn't
have any symptoms. So it's easy to go into denial. But I remember
they did, sadly, the saline solution abortion and then I was
brought into a room and I was told to just press a button when the
when the baby stopped kicking. So right then and there, it dawned
on me that it was a baby. So unfortunately, when I had to deliver
the baby, and the nurse had said, Oh, you would have had a perfect
baby boy. But because that was so traumatic. I didn't know the Lord
back then it went down into denial, which is the most basic of all
psychological defenses. And I did not remember it until 27 years
later, when I was working in a pregnancy center as a counselor and
had to go through post abortion, healing and recovery. And it was
there that I got in touch with a full awareness of the abortion.
And I just thought I would never stop crying. I thought, you know,
that baby because I talk a little bit later about how I came to
know Jesus. But at that moment, you know, just having to accept
that that baby died because I made that decision was horrific. So
through the Bible study, forgiven and set free, I was able to come
to the other side of it. And it's hard for women who've had
abortions to forgive themselves. So I had to forgive myself. And
then I had to accept God's forgiveness. And at the end, we have a
memorial service, we're able to name our babies. And I named my
baby Samuel, which in the Jewish religion, if you have a son, you
name him after your father's first initial, which was Seelig. And
so I named him Samuel. And at the very end, they gave, you know,
like a certificate. And when I went home, I remember my husband and
I don't have children. That's part of our story. But when I came
home, and I showed him the certificate, he said, I would like to
adopt your baby. So that didn't happen, we will have a child
together. And that's the kind of nice Yes, I know he's so special,
my true soulmate. And you know, and I was just like, so that's, you
know, pretty much the actual story, but the Lord has redeemed it in
many ways, which we'll talk about in a minute. But I'm just to be
able to share this, this story to bring hope to other women that
you know, healing is possible. Forgiveness Is Possible redemption,
you know, and the most uses everything in our lives, everything for
his greater purposes.
Kimberly Hobbs
He does everything. And that's a scripture that I just, the Lord
says, I Yes, I alone will blot out your sins for my own sake, and I
will never think of them again. Isaiah 4325. And even though in
that moment didn't, you didn't understand you didn't know what was
happening. You know it. God removes that from you and look at your
story, Goldie, it is just I mean, I my ears, my eyes started
tearing up, my heart was pounding and I had goosebumps at the same
time like, that is just amazing how God allowed you to go through
the healing process. But he tells us there is forgiveness for all
of us who repent. Luke 2447 says that, right? So there is hope,
ladies, there's hope for our past mistakes, yours may not be
abortion, it may be something else that has been just traumatizing
you for years and years and you've not been able to release it.
There is hope for you. Because God says there is forgiveness of
sins for all of us who repent, and then he makes a way to move
forward. So Goldie, what, what it seems now that, you know, guilt
would follow you forever. It didn't you said and you shared a
little glimpse of that. So how did God redeem you, Goldie?
Jane "Goldie" Winn
Yeah, that's a great question, Kimberly. Well, he's just so
amazing, you know, because again, you know, this Jewish girl, we
were taught growing up, you know, never to believe in Jesus,
because it's like way the Jews and they the Gentiles, and
unfortunately, many Jewish people put Hitler in the category of
Christians, you know, and my father did that. So it was just like,
I could never even think about believing in Jesus, but the Lord
again, in His mercy, you know, when we cry out to Him, you know, he
has a way of coming to us. And I was, my husband and I had been, we
met, and we were musicians right away. And we were touring with
this band, and we're living in the Midwest. And, and I remember, I,
all of a sudden, you know, something happened in my heart. And I
just thought, I don't know if I can do this for the rest of my
life. And I remember going outside one day, and I just fell on my
face, and I cried out to the God of Abraham, Isaac, and Jacob, and
he said, if you're real, please reveal Yourself to me. Otherwise, I
want to die. And all of a sudden, I just felt this blanket of peace
come over me. And it's not like I saw lightning or heard bolts of
thunder, but I felt his peace. And then long story short, the Lord.
I just decided I had to get out of that crazy lifestyle of singing
to a bunch of drunks with a bunch of drunks, I couldn't handle it
anymore. Dave stayed a little while longer. But I just felt like I
wanted to do volunteer work. So I started working in a facility
where there was a girl, you know, there and we were trying to help
other kids not take drugs away. We did. And I was drawn to her
because she had so much joy. And long story short, um, she invited
Dave and I, we were living together at the time. We met in 1971.
And she had invited us to this, what we now know, is a prayer
meeting a Catholic charismatic prayer meeting with all kinds of
denominations there, everything you can imagine from Lutheran to
Presbyterian to you, you name it, they were there. And there was
just I remember when we walked in, you know, we had our bell
bottoms and our tie dyed shirts. And we didn't know if people would
accept us, but they did immediately. And again, you know, when we
were used to singing to drunks, and we saw these people who were
worshipping, again, you know, their hands are raised to Jesus, and
they were singing songs to Jesus, Dave and I looked at each other,
like, what is this, but something was stirring in our heart. And we
thought, maybe that's what we need, you know, we need God. So long
story short, people came up to us and you know, just lovingly and
kept inviting us back. And about the third prayer meeting, there
was a priest and a nun who just basically invited Dave and I, to
receive Jesus as our Messiah. And I thought, but I'm Jewish, and I
don't know if I can do that. But they I thought to myself, What do
I have to lose? I was just getting really depressed again, and just
losing hope because of the lifestyle. So together August 4 1974, we
got on our knees, we prayed to receive your shoe Oh, which is the
Jewish name for Jesus. And they've been they've prayed to receive
Jesus had been brought up Catholic. And at the moment, I came to
pray that prayer I was filled with joy of the Lord totally filled
with joy the Lord, because I was always depressed all my life. And
so this was the sign that I needed in First Corinthians 122. You
know, the Jew requires a sign. And I was given a word that day,
Goldie, Your gift will be the gift of joy. And I was just filled
with joy. And the Scripture is Second Corinthians 517. Therefore,
if anyone be in Christ, he is a new creation, the old has passed
away and all things have become new. And that's exactly what
happened. I mean, I was just flooded with joy and peace. And you
know, from that moment moment on our lives were never the same Dave
and I knew we were living in sin, and we got married three months
later, and we've been serving the Lord ever since. And I guess the
way Kimberly, he totally redeemed it as now all these years later,
I'm still, I started working in 1997 After I got my master's degree
in social work in a Pregnancy Clinic, and I was, you know,
counseling women and helping them. And then when we moved to
Florida in 2011, the Lord led me to work in a Pregnancy Clinic
here. And so now after helping women heal from abortion, which has
been my heart for many years now I'm on the other side, helping
women who are in the process of making decisions about their
pregnancy, so I can use my abortion story to help them know that
it's not the quick, easy fix, they think it is that there's a dark
side to abortion. So he has totally redeemed my story over and over
and over again. And my Wow, touch so many women, you know, who are
still feeling the pain of their abortion because if he can free me,
he can free them to
Kimberly Hobbs
Amen. Goldie, amen. God restored that joy to you. He gave you joy,
the joy of your salvation, right? Yeah. So and also hope, hope to
continue living in this world that gets us to go forward. And so
you were living now beyond your shame and guilt that you carried
you were redeemed is just so beautiful. And ladies, there's a
scripture that says, hope in the Lord. For with the Lord there is
unfailing love. His redemption overflows at Psalm 130, verse seven,
ladies, you can be redeemed, redeemed by the blood of the Lamb,
which is Jesus Christ and inviting him into your heart, asking him
for forgiveness of all of your past, your shame, your guilt,
everything that you've held on to release it to him, and he is a
God of forgiveness. So, Goldie, what now is God doing in your life
that you have fully surrendered to Him? Which is so beautiful, and
you're telling me what in our conversation prior to today that it
took you 20 years to do something? So what is it in your life right
now that God has moved you from, to in this life a full surrender
to JESUS CHRIST share about that? Because it is pretty
exciting?
Jane "Goldie" Winn
It's a great question. Yeah, I guess it has been a real process. I
always say it's a process, not an event. And I think you know, the
most important thing for me, Kimberly, was that I had to totally
surrender my painful past to the Lord. And actually, I did that, I
believe it was in 2015, right before my 65th birthday, because I
was still aware that I was holding on to things and I wasn't
totally free. You know. And John 836 says, you know, so the sunsets
is free, you will be free indeed, right. And I needed that freedom.
So I totally surrendered. I talked about it more specifically in
the book, my painful past to the Lord. And right after I did that
the Lord brought a publisher to me, I finished writing the book, it
was published in Jan, I'm sorry, December 2019. And, maybe, and
then we had COVID. So nothing much happened that year, that title
of that book is, is rainbow in the night, a journey of redemption.
Wonderful. And, and so that's really exactly what it is. Because,
you know, it was like a dark rainbow that can only be seen like
through, you know, time lapse photography. And really, it is a
lunar rainbow. But as I began to get better, and the Lord began
healing me all of the colors of that rainbow brightened. And that's
why, you know, starts out to be a rainbow in the night. And then as
my life, you know, was totally redeemed by the Lord and I was free.
And He healed me from so much that I've found that those colors are
so much brighter. And I can say to other people, and I love this
scripture and Isaiah 45 Three, which says, I will give you the
treasures of darkness, riches, hidden and secret places so that you
may know that I am the Lord, the God of Israel, who summons you by
name, Isaiah 45. Three. And so I love that scripture. Isn't that
powerful, whatever we have in our past, and he can just take that
and redeem that. And then now currently, the book is being made
into a movie rainbow in the night movie. Yay, guiding because I
just feel during this time, we need hopeful, faith based movies.
Yes, we do. I really know that if the Lord can do this for me,
that's the vision for the movie. He can do it for you too. And
that's my full purpose in doing the movie is just to bring hope and
encouragement, that indeed if we will surrender the Lord will heal
us from our painful past.
Kimberly Hobbs
So true, so true. And even even now in As you were writing and this
book was coming out, I'm sure there was so much more healing in
that book. Right? Yeah. And as you put it out, and you wrote with
the Lord, and that came together, because there was no coincidence
that you named it what you did. God gave you that name rainbow in
the night and how you arrived at that, and that scripture again?
Can you share that scripture one more time?
Jane "Goldie" Winn
Yes, Isaiah 45. Three, I will give you the treasures of darkness,
riches, hidden and secret places, so that you may know that I am
the Lord, the God of Israel, who summons you by name, Isaiah 45,
three.
Kimberly Hobbs
Wow, ladies, I pray that you will write that scripture down Isaiah
45, three for your own life, He will give you those treasures,
right, those treasures that we think are just we don't, we can't
even grasp them. Because we can't, our brain can't go there because
we're so burdened by all the hurt and all the things that we have.
But that Scripture is hope. That's true hope, right? And now look
what God is doing. She took that step of faith surrendered her
life, to Jesus. And now Goldie has taken this book, and God took it
to another level to a movie. And this movie now has been it's going
I mean, right now they're in the stages. So how Goldy can people
find you just to be able to look at the movie, look at what's going
on with the book, and maybe be prayer partners with you and just
help as this movie is still coming to fruition? Right? We want to
know how can we all connect with you and pray for you and praise
this through because others need to hear this amazing story of hope
and encouragement?
Jane "Goldie" Winn
Well, thank you, Kimberly. Yeah, if you go to my website, rainbow
in the night movie.com, you will see all about my story all about
the book. And there's a six minute movie demo that's been produced.
And then the way it's being funded is much like the chosen the
crowd funding. So the budget, because so many people are
volunteering, and you know, some of them. It's amazing. So the
total budget to produce the movie with reenactment scenes, and
everything will be about 50,000. Well, my friends so far have
raised 25,000. So we just need 25, more 1000, which is really not
being in the Lord's Kingdom. And if you'd like to help right on the
website, there's a button that says Donate now. And if you click on
that you go to a nonprofit through the National Christian
foundation, and you can give your donation and get a tax deductible
receipt, and then know that you're going to be a co producer in
this movie, because I believe that everybody who's given a
donation, everybody who prays, and we have a huge dream team, I
like to call it the Dream Team of so many people coming alongside
and surrounding the whole project with love and prayers. We
couldn't do that without prayer. So prayer is probably the most
important. But again, you know, we would like to see it funded soon
so that we can finish the production and get it out to the world,
maybe, maybe by May, perhaps, of 2023. So that's our next goal. So
praise the Lord.
Kimberly Hobbs
We will definitely join with you in prayer, Goldie, and as women
listen, and who knows what God can do. And it just through the
listening portion of this and like you said, I love that we all
come together as women in Jesus that can understand each other. And
that's how we we glean hope and encouragement from each other
stories. And you do have a powerful story. And you know what it's
like to be, you know, under that blanket burden, I shouldn't even
say blanket because it's not a blanket, it's a burden. It's a sack
of rocks that you carry of, you know, the past and but when we can
all come together as women and help to point each other to Jesus to
share where our hope lies. Our hope lies in Jesus Christ and what
He did on the cross for our sins. And there is freedom in
forgiveness, as you said, we can be free in Christ Jesus. So can
you pour that hope and encouragement into the listener right now
Goldie that has dealt with trauma? And maybe it's abortion in her
life? Maybe it's something else? Or maybe she knows somebody who's
gone through it, but she's carrying part of that burden. Can you
pour into her right now? Just a word of encouragement?
Jane "Goldie" Winn
Yes. And if anybody wants to reach out to me by email, it's on the
website. I'd be happy to direct them if they need healing after an
abortion, because that's really important. But the scripture that I
really love is May the God of hope fill you with all joy and peace
as you trust in Him so that you may overflow Low with hope, by the
power of the Holy Spirit, Romans 1513. And I think that kind of
says it all. Because you know, it is all about hope. It's all about
joy. It's all about knowing that only the Lord can do this. Because
it can lift me up out of all that depression and bondage that I was
under, he can do the same for you. And so you just have to be
willing to come to the Lord and ask him, because anytime Jesus came
up to anybody for healing, what did he say? He always asked the
question, what do you want from me? Yes, to be able to come to him
and tell him what you want? And he will answer because he did for
me in a way, way beyond your Ephesians 320 Verse. exceedingly
abundantly, what I could have ever hoped or imagined. So I know he
can do the same for everyone who's listening right now, no matter
what their situation, no
Kimberly Hobbs
matter what their situation, and, you know, Goldy you just kind of
mentioned your age, when you were sharing about when the book came
out, and about starting your surrender it at 65. And I'm like, wait
a minute, do you do not look, you know, more than 65 years old, and
I so I'm kind of doing the math in my head. But I, the Scripture
that comes to my mind is God says I will be your God throughout
your lifetime until your hair is white with age, ladies, it's never
too late to start what God puts on your heart when you surrender to
him. I mean, look at Goldie, she starts writing her book in her 60s
for 20 years, God was putting it on her heart to do this. And then
when she surrendered and started and he says, I made you and I will
care for you, I will carry you along and save you. Isaiah 46:4
Jane "Goldie" Winn
And the latter day shall be greater than the foreman Amen. That's
right.
Kimberly Hobbs
That's right. And you are living that out and you are going to see
this movie that God is going to bring to fruition and I will have
prayer support for you and and to ever feels led to go to your
website, Goldie and be part of this, it's it's a good thing. We
need more of these movies that can touch the hearts of people
change the hearts of people, to seek God with all their hearts,
seek forgiveness, and be free from the bondage, right like began to
go into the world and then be this shining light, just like coldy
as this shining light for Jesus and I am so thankful to serve with
you. And now Goldie is a in women world leaders, and she is writing
one of her stories in Miracle mindset, a book that we have coming
out through women, world leaders and, ladies, this is what it's all
about. We would love for you to connect with us. You may have a
story that you want to share with the world, you may be feeling
nudged right now to do something, we have that opportunity in this
ministry to serve the Lord with all your heart, it doesn't matter
what your past is, as long as it's forgiven, right? If you've
repented of what you've done, we serve a God that loves you that
doesn't stop loving you forgives you, and wants to use you for your
beautiful purpose that you were created, which is to glorify Him in
every way. So please, ladies reach out to us, you might be a writer
and one of our upcoming books will help you write. It's not that
you have to be this famous author. No, you just have to give your
yes to Jesus. And then we will step in and help you finish it. It's
an amazing journey we go on with women together, and we have
multiple books starting this year. So just reach out to us. You can
reach out to me personally, at Kimberly at women world leaders.com.
And just say I'm interested in sharing my story. And I will point
you toward one of our books that is beginning and get you in there
to start sharing with the world what God is doing in your life. And
ladies, we just love you. And we just pray that if you are moved by
today's podcast that you'll share this podcast. We have them
available Monday, Wednesday and Friday through women world leaders
podcast. Not only do we do interviews, like I just did with Goldie
where she shared her story, but we have teaching podcasts on
Wednesday and we go through the Gospels. We have celebrating God's
grace on Friday where different women in the ministry get to share
and pour into you to encourage you into the weekend. So lately
there's ladies there are so many ways you can get involved in women
world leaders and there is hope there is encouragement in the Lord
Jesus Christ and we help each other They're by pointing them to
Jesus. And I just want to thank you, Goldie, for today for being on
and just sharing us with us a glimpse into your life and how God
showed up and freed you from your past. to now be this amazing,
Christ follower that serves Jesus with all her heart, a Messianic
Jewish, saying, Amen. We are just so blessed to have you
Jane "Goldie" Winn
Shalom. Allah him, means peace on to you.
Kimberly Hobbs
Oh, beautiful. Thank you. Thank you and peace on to you. Ladies,
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